Recently you posted about the Kansas Board of Education's choice to cut the evolution theory of our history out of it's classrooms. I've read most of your articles, and while I agree with some of them (ugh, multiple births induced by fertility drugs.. *shudder* there IS a reason humans do not naturally spawn whole litters of children...) but this article made me wonder if the church you follow gave you some kind of free lobotomy.

I find it quite amusing that you post your anti-evolution ‘ideas' on your site, claiming them to be false. And to support your argument that it's false, all you do is quote some scripture! Some real facts might be nice.

This is worse then any up-tight religious group I've seen before, that's for sure. At least they attempt to mask the errors in their arguments with far-out lies. You couldn't even do that.

I'm wondering, where do such ideas come from? Where is the absolute, 100% proof-positive guarantee for the ideas that you support? "Because it says so!" is not an acceptable answer.

These are just things I see, from a reader that actually thinks, rather then just listens. If you can prove to me what you said is true, I'd LOVE to hear it. Otherwise, I'll just assume you know your wrong, and don't feel like admitting it.

The scientific theory of why we are here is not complete, and will not be for a long time to come, but at least we don't try to hide it behind lies and half-assed coverups. Good god, some of these religious creation stories are so outlandish, it makes me wonder how anyone could take them seriously. Oops, sorry.. It's probably not nice of me to talk like that... I don't want to offend the people who can't understand basic scientific principles. Religion is the salvation of the under-educated world looking for a quick-fix.

Sincerely, Adam Krumbein

TMB:
Huh?

Adam responded:
Good point there!

TMB:
Indeed.

How could I possibly debate your in-depth, rational rebuttal of my article? You've made me see the error of my ways. Down with Marduk! May Elil live on His place!

Adam responded:
By doing something other then using a scripture quote as evidence, my sarcastic friend.

It would have been a more convincing article if it had some evidence that can be backed up, perhaps.

I'm not usually one to attack someone for their view (I have mine and I'm sure a great many people disagree with it), but your article was left with some huge gaping holes in it, ready for some bastard such as myself to move in and write you about it.

TMB:
>By doing something other then using a scripture quote as evidence, my sarcastic friend.

TMB: Are you even familiar with "The Enuma Elish"?

>It would have been a more convincing article if it had some evidence that >can be backed up, perhaps.

TMB: My point was made.

>I'm not usually one to attack someone for their view (I have mine and I'm >sure a great many people disagree with it), but your article was left with >some huge gaping holes in it, ready for some bastard such as myself to move >in and write you about it.

TMB: I'd replace "bastard" with "idiot," but that's just my take on matters.

Adam responded:
It's an old Babylonian creation story, correct?

What I have read of it doesn't convince me of much, just more religious babble.

It was written many thousands of years ago. I fail to see how you can take it as accurate proof of anything.

Religion was a way of explaining things before people knew what atoms, quarks, and strings were. Before gravitation and quantum mechanics. Example: people back then did not know what gravity was, or it's effects on this earth and every other body in the universe. By your standards, gravity must be wrong then, for Marduk did not state it, from what I have seen.

I guess I'm an idiot for not believing silly stories of how things happened anymore, or maybe I'm moving on as levels of knowledge progress with the arrow of time.

TMB:
>It's an old Babylonian creation story, correct?

TMB: Well, you could deduce that from my article. Have you actually read it? It's much more than that.

>What I have read of it doesn't convince me of much, just more religious >babble.

TMB: What's your point?

>It was written many thousands of years ago. I fail to see how you can take >it as accurate proof of anything.

TMB: I didn't know I did.

>Religion was a way of explaining things before people knew what atoms, >quarks, and strings were. Before gravitation and quantum mechanics. >Example: >people back then did not know what gravity was, or it's effects on this >earth and every other body in the universe. By your standards, gravity >must be wrong then, for Marduk did not state it, from what I have seen.

TMB: Of course, science is just a more technical religion. People will mindlessly follow scientists as others mindlessly follow their church leaders.

>I guess I'm an idiot for not believing silly stories of how things >happened anymore, or maybe I'm moving on as levels of knowledge progress with the >arrow of time.

TMB: Or you're just a plain idiot.

Adam responded:
I've heard of it outside of your article. I have to admit I have not read the whole thing. When was the last time you read a whole book by Professor Hawking, Dr. Zubrin, Carl Sagan, Einstein, or any of the other great minds of our century? Keep in mind those are just the well-known ones. Your list is probably rather short.. I don't think you'd be defending "The Enuma Elish" if you did.

Unless your on your way to working on your own Ph.D. in astrophysics. Then, oh my god.. you can do calculations on your own! What do you have then? Well, it looks like your own personal proof of most anything you'd like to take the time to try and prove (or be disproved in).

It's not as often someone can just chat with which ever god or gods they chose to follow, now is it? No, not really.

I find it rather funny that I thought you'd actually provide any good insight into your thoughts. It was fun, but proved my theory that people who try to disprove science and evolution can't defend their own thoughts. All you've done is try to throw me for a loop, which is typical of people who try to bring proof to a creation myth.

I guess I'll be seeing you when our paths cross again, which will most likely not happen until the universe is turned into a singularity during the big crunch. Then again.. there is sufficient dark matter in the universe to keep it from collapsing, in theory. Maybe that'll be a good topic for a thesis paper...

P.S. - At least I didn't bitch at you about mothers, birth control, porn, or stupid rich white teens.

TMB:
You're a fucking imbecile. I mean it.

Adam continued to respond:
It's okay if you need to call me names to get your point of hating me and my ideas across, your not going to offend anyone.

Well, I wouldn't call myself dense. Stubborn is a better word. However, I'm right, thus I can be stubborn. :)

TMB:
I don't hate you; I pity you. I can't imagine what it's like to be that unwilling to accept Marduk into one's heart.

We'll see how right you are when I post your e-mails. Wait until the hail of fire from the righteous.

Adam responded:
Go for it, if you need the support that badly :)

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